Rookies? No Kidding? (UPDATE)
- Faced with a surge in killings and a breakdown of trust in law enforcement, the Chicago Police Department is sending its least experienced cops to neighborhoods that see the most violence.
The six police districts with the highest total of murders and shootings this year have the most rookie officers, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis of police deployment data found.
Those districts — all of them on the South Side or the West Side — also have some of the least experienced supervisors, on average.
Yeah, because as soon as you get this little thing called "seniority," you tend to want to get out of the crappiest neighborhoods (i.e. high crime) and head to someplace that actually appreciates the police. Where you aren't subject to taunts, spit and solving the problems of people (or folks) who refuse to take responsibility for their lot in life.
Certain aldercreatures feel like they have to force veterans to work where they don't want to be and are going to be pushing for that when the Contract expires, which will make a happy and productive workforce - just like when they let the ACLU and #blm run things.
We'd think about doing it for an extra $20,000. And after we got the suitcase full of money to think about it, we'd probably still say no. But it'll cost them $20,000 to hear us say it.
UPDATE: Someone in the comment section had a good point/idea - why doesn't the City experiment with moving the veteran teachers back to places like "Fenger, Kelvyn Park, Bowen, Bogan, Douglass, Tilden, CVS, VOISE"? After all, the children are our most important resource, right? And they deserve to be taught by the most experienced teachers so that they can be successful astronauts and physicists and doctors, right?
This sounds like a great idea, and it's all "for the children," so Rahm can get behind it and feel he's still supporting the Hillary Agenda.
Certain aldercreatures feel like they have to force veterans to work where they don't want to be and are going to be pushing for that when the Contract expires, which will make a happy and productive workforce - just like when they let the ACLU and #blm run things.
We'd think about doing it for an extra $20,000. And after we got the suitcase full of money to think about it, we'd probably still say no. But it'll cost them $20,000 to hear us say it.
UPDATE: Someone in the comment section had a good point/idea - why doesn't the City experiment with moving the veteran teachers back to places like "Fenger, Kelvyn Park, Bowen, Bogan, Douglass, Tilden, CVS, VOISE"? After all, the children are our most important resource, right? And they deserve to be taught by the most experienced teachers so that they can be successful astronauts and physicists and doctors, right?
This sounds like a great idea, and it's all "for the children," so Rahm can get behind it and feel he's still supporting the Hillary Agenda.
Labels: silly people
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
111 Comments:
$20,000 is not even close to enough to give up my seniority.
Dump the 50, dump rahm, dump Toni, dump dart start over, we need help here, not the coppers fault all the mayhem lies directly in front of the elected doorstep, the anarchy starts and ends there, but in the middle people are being shot and murdered regularly here in chiraq!
There are still plenty of officers with time on the job in the ghetto. Several of my classmates are still in the ghetto. They get days, great furlos and don't mind the drama. Not to mention that the ghetto districts have upwards of 300 po's assigned to them. We're still under 200 and I don't now who several of those names are that work here. The district I work in has openings for 2nd watch on bid if you have around 20 years on the job. Why would I want to work in the Duece when I can work 3 or 4 miles from home? There are under 15 people killed where I work for the year. 016 has 2. 20 has either 1 or 2. Does 019 even have 1? Yup, I want to go work where there are 2 or 3 homicides per week, sure do, I mean, what could go wrong? Oh I know, I might get involved in a shooting and then I can find out first hand just how even handed Kim "Cabrini" Foxx is for the police. I mean, I read posts here from people who say how great she is.
All the signs of a dysfunctional command and leadership.
How bout just having some "what are they called again?" .... Oh yeah ipenings in even busy districts ??? 11 has had like 2 openings in the past year and is now stocked with people with less than 5 years on ! Some people just want to move to a district closer to home in most cases but still want to enjoy the perks of having a little bit of seniority in a shitty district !
Want me working in 007 you're going to have to drop my residency requirement?
where's the 'like' button? calling 4DATA.
I'm shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
TO ALL CURRENT FOP MEMBERS:
This is why you do not want the proven ineffectual President Dean Angelo negotiating your contract. Elect an individual who will put the hard fought provisions such as seniority and the disciplinary procedure paramount during negotiations. And don't let the past clowns like Dougherty convince you that Obamacare will suffice for retirees. For too long we've been sending a boy to do a man's job. DUMP DEANO!
Retired .38 spl +P
They will attempt to gut this contract, probably be worst contract ever, pay attention on how the flop handles this, should end in arbitration
I forget, but didn't the FOP contract serving in high crime areas, and additional monies. I do not believe anyone actually got the extra monies.
I feel like we've had this conversation here before
Maybe the aldercreatures should give up their bump in pay for chairing committees to help the city get out of its financial hole? I'm thinking they won't. But until then, seniority rules. I learned decades ago, as did others, when the city couldn't be trusted to treat its employees fairly, that the only recourse to bullshit from supervisors and the city was a contract. The demorats are so concerned about collective bargaining by workers and gov employees when wanting to win votes, but when the membership abides by the contract suddenly the membership is selfish, not thinking of the greater good.
The shooting in 004 with that asshole in the stolen car who almost hit the PO getting out of his squad... Those POs had about 3 years on the job... In the end I bet all 3 of those POs are toast, just add butter. This is what the department does, send the least qualified and rolls the dice. These dumb ass white shirts have been doing this for ages, and in the end, don't blame the PPO; this is what is handed to them, and it's very unfortunate for the majority of them. Any one tells me they are looking to get hired, I tell them go FED LEO.
I have done my time in these shitty hoods and ain't going back there!
Fuck them!
KMA 20+
I'm almost 50 years old with 26 years on. I don't run after anyone. The thought of running tightens my back up to almost needing to hitting the medical. The reason is injuries, from past car accidents, active resistors working, while carrying 20-25 extra pounds of crap 9 - 10 hours a day. The body just isn't meant for it. Went me to go back to the crappiest hood? No problem. But don't get upset with back logs and offenders that run away not being arrested. Also the fact that I'm melanin deficient prevents me from being promoted for being NOBLE.
20,000 tax free! You forgot that part, and the answer will still be NO...
I would NOT take a promotion anymore on this job just so that I will NOT wind up in a shitty police district!
My quality of life is more important than this job and the "peoples or folks" that you get called to!
Just ask that Sergeant in da hood, who got stripped and thrown under the bus for a 19-paul job!
KMA 20+
Make me go back to ghetto; you'll get less from me than you get now.
Get BLAM and the ACLU to handle the hood.
Do I have to teach these clowns how it's done? You offer time in a half. You then have the rookie exchange districts with the veteran. It may even have to be double time. You can balance the years in 3 periods.Your problem will still be a system that is too liberal on prosecuting criminals and focused on indicting police for simply doing their jobs.
Anyone notice that the last transfer order sent a bunch of PPO's to 014, 016, 020, ECT?
Again i'll say this,why is Johnson still the superintendent beside the obvious? If anyone thinks the mayor will get reelected with this crime thats out of control you would be wrong..
How about offering higher pay or a bonus to work in such districts? (house mouses don't count)
It's kind of like The Circle Of Life.
If they succeed with that, I'll seek out said alder creatures and set them up for a lawsuit for something. Guaran-fucking-teed.
Fuck off, the ghetto lottery can work 2 ways.
Why not make all the veteran CPS teachers and counselors go to schools in bad neighborhoods and underperforming schools as well. Do you really think CPS teachers and counselors working at Lane, Taft, Whitney Young, Northside Prep, Von Steuben, and Payton would still be working for CPS if they were sent to Fenger, Kelvyn Park, Bowen, Bogan, Douglass, Tilden, CVS, VOISE?
The difference here is veteran POs to do their time in shit neighborhoods and then move to somewhere less dangerous later in their careers. Newbie CPS teachers cherry pick the good schools and avoid the shithole CPS schools. And, those who choose to work in shitholes don't make it pass their 2nd and 3rd years, that's if they make it pass their first week of year 1.
A huge problem for the Dept. is that it has never had a seriously put together tightly managed Field Training Officer program.
Many of the people these young, impressionable rookies get placed with for field training are people I wouldn't trust to house
sit my cactus plant. I hear that Granny Clampett is in charge of overhauling our FTO program; maybe she can come up with
one that we can all support.
I wonder what that analyst job pays? Could you have an easier job?
On a sad note, one off the best FTO's ever on this job passed away last night. RIP Bt. 1011. JL was a great copper, even better friend.
Speaking of experience, RIP Mr. "Beat 1011". You were a good man and fine teacher (FTO), JL.
They want to gut our contract. And Dean0 Jr. hasn't gotten promoted yet. Get ready to fight.
Offer veterans more money and I'm in. Like $25k more per year...maybe.....nah FUCK THAT
You are expendable....in their eyes and the other haters
Great reporting. Only the story is several decades old. Nothing new here.
Competence is not the issue. Rahm and his Police Command Staff realize that younger officers, are Young, Dumb and full of Cum, so they will follow instructions and take risks Senior Officers would reject. If they think forcing Senior officers into the Hood is going to reduce crime, they are in for a Rude Surprise, because the Senior Officers will lay down like the dogs they will become. The ACLU and DOJ have destroyed Proactive Policing for at least a generation. Perhaps longer, if we begin to Gate Communities as is the case in other parts of the nation. In addition if the City initiates a type of Hazardous Duty Bonus, it will produce another issue, and that is: Should this experience be considered more valuable at time of selection for promotion? Will this be a green light to raise insurance premiums in these areas? Will this Absolutely discourage any form of private development in these area? Next to bringing in the ACLU; breaking Seniority could be another major error for the Tough Putz from Wilmette. Baby"G"
OT But a rookie move anyway. I recently came across a YouTube video created by a po LC from 11 third watch. It was filmed by him while working the world series. In the video you clearly see another po asking him not to record him and telling him that he doesn't want the video on any kind of social media. What does,this putz do? He posts it on,YouTube. After watching it I noticed that LC has posted several dozen videos on YouTube. Some in uniform, some not. The stupidest video is of him recording himself screaming into the camera that the cubs won. Talk about someone who loves attention!! Haven't people learned yet not to put themselves out there like that? It's one thing if you want to be famous but when you have someone telling you not to record them and you still do, dick move
After a quiet start to the weekend things finally picked up, listen people (and folks), we're gonna need 2+ a day to get to 800, second place is the first loser. Let's go Chicago.
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All they do is moan and wail that they don't get the best. Blah, blah, blah. Just like with the teachers, they are coming out with the latest training and less of a stand offish attitude. But this is not good enough. If u want less police in your "neighborhood" then stop covering for the criminals and accepting these types of behavior. Until then, GFY!!!
They tried to change things on the cheap hoping older officers would bid off of days for better furloughs to work with officers on third and first watch. That obviously didn't change much.
The $20,000 probably isn't enough for me to bid to a high crime area. A longer commute, increased possibility of being involved in a shooting, being sued, and a more difficult/frustrating workday that I'm sure will inevitably show up at home wouldn't make 20,000 anywhere near evough. I think you need to be near $35,000-$40,000 to start the conversation.
its always something isnt it? "you get more cops you cry-bullies" "we want older cops"
"you get more $" - "We want even more money"
whatever - how about you get married before you have kids - it seems to work
Alder assholes can't have it both ways, one of these alder creatures was seated near me at wedding last fall ,saying he wanted young blood police in his ward ,, yet weeks ago , he was complaining he is not seeing enough experienced Police in his own ward because crime is increasing ,,LOL too many Chicago aldermen doing too little
Versus:
"We can't get those old gray-beard Cops to
do what we want because they're too wily
and aware of what their rights and protections
are and they have too good a grasp of the law etc..."
Translation?
Older Coppers are "too hard to control" because why?
Because they're older, dammit!
Among the myriad reasons, real and mostly imagined
that every swing-dick and hang-tit with an agenda
is making much noise about inviting themselves
to the Police contract negotiating table in order
to strip away contractual rights like seniority
and the ability to bid from one district to
another to:
BE CLOSER TO HOME.
Escape bad/incompetent supervision.
Being able to change your "client base" for the better.
("How dare y'all try to get away from US!")
Being able to better manage your work flow.
(Not so much now in this era of artificially
induced manpower shortages under the guise of
"Right-Sizing" CPD in order to re-allocate
budgeted monies to mayoral pet projects
and pandering to the perpetually outraged
about everything peoples and folkses.)
...And so on.
"The Police (with their contractual AND
Constitutional rights) are the problem...
Once we fix them, everything else will fall
in place."
These districts also get some of the most over promoted, jagoff gold stars who make the lives of senior officers and supervisors so miserable they BID out! Just check out what's happening in 025.
Here is an idea.... Give people more money to work in these districts. I can GUARANTEE you will have people with time on who will do it for the money. It will be the same people who work VRI. I have nothing against it. It just isn't for me. If too many people sign up, they can make it like VRI and base it on seniority to start. Some people will do anything for the money.
What makes yall think shit can't happen in the "good" districts?
Anonymous said...
Do I have to teach these clowns how it's done? You offer time in a half. You then have the rookie exchange districts with the veteran. It may even have to be double time. You can balance the years in 3 periods.Your problem will still be a system that is too liberal on prosecuting criminals and focused on indicting police for simply doing their jobs.
Did you ever make "time in a half" ???
I think the city pays "time and a half" !!!
Shhhhhiiiiittttt, be quiet give me a fast district anytime where seniority is king. Fuck all the "slow districts"! They have no man power and have a bunch of divas working in them.......
In the service you get combat pay, overseas pay and your regular pay. Think about that. LOL
Saw a picture of our Command Squad. It has to be the most dysfunctional group of meritorious crap ever obtained. Granny next to special ed and the rest of the clowns is pathetic. Until we have a command staff with a higher educational IQ of 14. I will remain in a state of Broken Arrow.
RIP J.Liston 1011. One of the most best ghetto cops this city has ever had.
Many contracts ago the FOP under Donahue said that the city made a deal that officers who put 5 year in in those same districts would be promoted with merit or allowed to go into clouted units.
And nothing! Nobody promoted nobody on the FLOP board causing a stir.(HELL most of the BOARD is in units)
So if it is really that important to the city lets negotiate. DEAN has a degree or two have him come up with something for the hard working patrol officers.
BONUS MONEY..higher wages for certain districts.
RAHM forget all that bullshit about senior officer wanting to work in specialized units.
1 more thing ANGELO don't negotiate for equipment ever again! It shows how little skill you have in dealing with the City.
I didn't build the worst neighborhoods, somebody else did.
Not only rotate teachers, how about Alderstools too. How about Exempts and House Mice?
Seniority has nothing to do with the thugs running lawless, it's the Mayor and his 50 NeverTrumps.
The #1 issue that the lackey Alderstooges fail to mention is the The Democrats created and maintain the Worst Neighborhoods in the country. Talk about keeping people shackled.
Does anyone know how many murders GMac was blame for in his last year versus Special Ed's YTD total?
Seems obvious Special Ed's Culture change and community outreach failed - BIGLY.
Don't interfere with the Democrats model citizen, any interjection of reason or civility will be considered racist and brutal.
It would be wise for the 2 years wonders to loose the fleet feet and don a pair of lead booties.
Don't count on the AlderStooge to be in your corner when one of their constituents gets the IPRA on yo'ass.
Btw, $20g hardly covers a decent legal retainer. A basic $500 yr Umbrella policy won't get you a 2 yrs of proceedings.
Stay Fetal, Seniority comes to everyone willing to sacrifice nothing more than the 1st & 16th.
Different Day, Same Old Song, and Dance routine....We have heard this before and it never works out.
I wouldn't go to those districts for double time. I know SOME coppers would.
Old Beat cops don't die, they just fade away...
Where are these young officers going to learn how to be the police? In the long run its beneficial to all for young coppers to start in the ghetto.
Todays office is ill-equipped for the ghetto
Anyone notice that the last transfer order sent a bunch of PPO's to 014, 016, 020, ECT?
Exactly, management will never figure out that to have well rounded experienced officer they should spend at least 1 year street time with veteran officers in a busy district ! Regardless weather they won an award in the academy or were a class commander, after the year period they would then get to go where they selected ! All of this is the trickle effect from the foot patrol B.S also !
"Do I have to teach these clowns how it's done? You offer time in a half. "
12/04/2016 06:27:00 AM
Yeah, I want you teaching the rookies. Time in a half? Hahahahaha
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone notice that the last transfer order sent a bunch of PPO's to 014, 016, 020, ECT?
12/04/2016 06:31:00 AM
014 got 4 PPO's and lost 13 PPO's when their details were cancelled. That's -9 more. Luckily not a lot of shootings in 014 anymore but the gentrification has created multiple entertainment areas where real taxpayers go to eat and drink and then become victims of the element
One goof said maybe we could entice veteran officers by putting better equipment in the shithole districts or offer more days off in those districts......yeah that's the ticket.... that'll work.
Better equipment? You must mean equipment that's only outdated by 5 years as opposed to the 10 years plus of most of our current equipment.
More time off? If you take a veteran officer and force them against their will to work in the ghetto they'll hit the medical much more frequently and there's that extra time off.
And nary a word from Dean and Co. . I suppose we'll start to hear from them in 2017, coming to multiple roll calls, courting the vote. Come April, they'll be out.
The ORIGINAL 1011! Often imitated but NEVER duplicated! JL always took care of his beat! The Electric Lady. RIP Brother. We'll see each other again at the "next" roll call.
I was lucky to have been assigned to a central district off probation which isn't too great but at least the whole district isn't a piece of shit.that being said I still want to get the hell out of the ghetto and move to a north side district. I've already been involved in way too many instances that could have ended real badly and now isn't the time to be a proactive cop.
SCC Said...
UPDATE: "Someone in the comment section had a good point/idea - why doesn't the City experiment with moving the veteran teachers back to places like "Fenger, Kelvyn Park, Bowen, Bogan, Douglass, Tilden, CVS, VOISE"? After all, the children are our most important resource, right? And they deserve to be taught by the most experienced teachers so that they can be successful astronauts and physicists and doctors, right?"
CTU Responds...
"You Coppers are a bunch of racists and haters for saying that!
We deserve to invoke seniority rights to put some distance
between our sanity and well being and the honor students
who make up our client base at CPS. If you Coppers would
just do your jobs and control them, this wouldn't be an issue!
Besides, you guys swore an oath, not US!"
>Snicker!<
War is hell and self-preservation
is a bitch, ain't it?
"Y'all stop tryin' so hard to protect y'allself
from us an' shit! That's RACIST!"
The answer is to just send everybody to Hell
and the very Devil and be done with it... Right?
Disarticulated and gnawed skeleton
laying under a sign that reads:
"Abandon hope all ye who enter herein."
But the map simply says:
"Beyond here be dragons."
...The headlong dash to 800 continues.
Police Like You Have NO Friends.
Just gave a FTO test on Saturday and a lot of people in my district with less then 4 years took it. The new teaching the new. Secondly, why did department change the rules were ppo's must work with a FTO? Many times I've seen a FTO call in and the ppo sits at the desk. Why not put them with a veteran officer instead of sitting on desk? Thirdly, a lot of ppo's work street for 3 months then went to impact zones or foot patrol. Then they sent to busy districts with no experience. The department bosses, and they alone, have set the new recruits up for failure. Write about that Main, Novak, Fusco instead of blaming the contract. Or did Rahm tell you not to attack his bosses and go after the young people willing to do a job that you know you can't do?
Karen Lewis' pot head would explode.
Who are candidates to start thinking about for the NEXT FoP President? Nit a fan of Dougherty, , but his words were more tha "Obamacare is a good thing". Typical copper taking things out of context..or maybe he was being sarcastic! You ever think that is the reason Dean is silent moat of the time?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
TO ALL CURRENT FOP MEMBERS:
This is why you do not want the proven ineffectual President Dean Angelo negotiating your contract. Elect an individual who will put the hard fought provisions such as seniority and the disciplinary procedure paramount during negotiations. And don't let the past clowns like Dougherty convince you that Obamacare will suffice for retirees. For too long we've been sending a boy to do a man's job. DUMP DEANO!
Retired .38 spl +P
12/04/2016 01:31:00 AM
???????
TO ALL FOP MEMBERS:
I guess we should elect a new guy who won’t put his name on his post.
We should elect a new guy but not a back stabber like Bill Dougherty who was willing to let every copper lose a year’s raise in order to get the City-Wide Team back in power?
But elect a new comer with no past record to judge him/her on?
Why?
Because it’s me!!!!!
I'll go back to the ghetto if there's a yearly stipend of $25K TAX FREE attached. PLUS... I want retroactive pay for the 23 years I spend in Harrison before I found a greener pasture. Actually, fuck you, i'll keep my happy ass right where it's at and let the newbies pay their dues. Remember: SENIORITY IS ALL US BLUE SHIRT GRUNTS HAVE. Do NOT allow FOP to even entertain giving that away. You'll all have time on the job some day......
25,000 .... 20,000 ... There ain't enough money in the world to have to deal with the dysfunctional fucking misfits in our society... They don't want policing and apparently ya ain't allowed to shoot the sona bitches either ... So what do you do ...ignore them ... If they kill a productive member of society... drop a house on them otherwise ignore the goofy bastards cause you can't fix stupid and it's even harder when the dumb asses have decided they are proud of their stupid ...* SHRUG*
Another suggestion is to require the Alercritters to conduct all business in these less desirable areas, or they don't get paid.
I have a feeling that such a policy would result in a surge in calls for "enforcement of the law" among the well paid "representatives" of the people.
Practice what you preach, as the old saying goes. The elites should not be able to force the "little people" to go where the elites fear to tread.
The mayor " get behind"😮 You guys are funny!
I won't let my kid take the police test in Chicago!
This Police Dept. and city really SUCKS!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The ORIGINAL 1011! Often imitated but NEVER duplicated! JL always took care of his beat! The Electric Lady. RIP Brother. We'll see each other again at the "next" roll call.
12/04/2016 02:53:00 PM
Agreed a great copper, worked on the watch with him the natives asked him why he had a big plastic pool folded over in the rear seat of the squad he said "haven't you ever seen a pool car before" RIP Brother you will be missed, also the great parties you put together!
The Post of 12/04/2016 Regarding Field Training Officers, Is Spot On.
Truth Is, When It Comes To Field Training For A New CPD Officer,There Is Very Little, If Any.
Anonymous said...
These districts also get some of the most over promoted, jagoff gold stars who make the lives of senior officers and supervisors so miserable they BID out! Just check out what's happening in 025.
12/04/2016 10:10:00 AM
There is going to be a mass exodus on days in 025 once Lt KS starts working there. Between him and the current jagoff, 2nd watch is going to be unbearable.
Anonymous said...
OT But a rookie move anyway. I recently came across a YouTube video created by a po LC from 11 third watch. It was filmed by him while working the world series. In the video you clearly see another po asking him not to record him and telling him that he doesn't want the video on any kind of social media. What does,this putz do? He posts it on,YouTube. After watching it I noticed that LC has posted several dozen videos on YouTube. Some in uniform, some not. The stupidest video is of him recording himself screaming into the camera that the cubs won. Talk about someone who loves attention!! Haven't people learned yet not to put themselves out there like that? It's one thing if you want to be famous but when you have someone telling you not to record them and you still do, dick move
12/04/2016 08:41:00 AM
LC didn't get enough attention as a kid?
capparrelli is in the fop for around 16years and what he can do with a knife is surgeon like. you'll never know it's in your back until it's 2 late. ONLY in it for himself.
BTW...how many of you know he was booted from being an "officer" 2 times because he wouldn't do any work.
The city screwed up when they switched to steady watches. Probably not to many left that remember them.
Try hiring zoo keepers for the savage culture? Hug a thug...
Why not put them with a veteran officer instead of sitting on desk? Thirdly, a lot of ppo's work street for 3 months then went to impact zones or foot patrol. Then they sent to busy districts with no experience. The department bosses, and they alone, have set the new recruits up for failure. Write about that Main, Novak, Fusco instead of blaming the contract.
++++++++++++++++
Can't put them with a veteran officer. City won't pay out of grade. So they sit at the end of the desk playing on their phone all day. Can't make anyone but an FTO show them anything - that would be out of grade. Our PPOs sometimes ride around with a sergeant, that way they know where all the Dunkins are and how to congregate with other supervisors for the first half of the tour.
Impact zones and foot patrol. Yup, another big problem. Years ago (20+)worked with someone just off of being a PPO, who had been on a 'skip' (Street crime impact program) car. They used to roll from in progress to in progress - never did paper.. Couldn't figure how to do an auto theft report.
They come up with new acronyms for the same problems that have yet to be solved.
Impact zone, PEZ, SKIP car, SNIP car, sector car, umbrella car, pool car, flivver whatever...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Again i'll say this,why is Johnson still the superintendent beside the obvious? If anyone thinks the mayor will get reelected with this crime thats out of control you would be wrong..
12/04/2016 06:44:00 AM
Are you kidding, the morons in this city will vote twinkle toes back in, unless Prickwinkle runs.
If she ever gets in then this city wil make Detroit look like a vacation destination.
Retired officer Richard Farina passed away this past week, a true gentleman, real nice guy R.I.P. Going to heaven with St Michaels force.
Here is a better idea. Fuck you Rham. Move the fuck out as soon as you can. Leave.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
These districts also get some of the most over promoted, jagoff gold stars who make the lives of senior officers and supervisors so miserable they BID out! Just check out what's happening in 025.
12/04/2016 10:10:00 AM
There is going to be a mass exodus on days in 025 once Lt KS starts working there. Between him and the current jagoff, 2nd watch is going to be unbearable.
12/04/2016 06:28:00 PM
What?
You blue shirts think you're too f'n
good to be "supervised" or somethin'?
Anonymous said...
capparrelli is in the fop for around 16years and what he can do with a knife is surgeon like. you'll never know it's in your back until it's 2 late. ONLY in it for himself.
BTW...how many of you know he was booted from being an "officer" 2 times because he wouldn't do any work.
12/04/2016 06:46:00 PM
???
So your running for his office? What's your name? Capparelli was throng out officer by us twice that's a fact. But why should I elect you?
Shhhhhiiiiittttt, be quiet give me a fast district anytime where seniority is king. Fuck all the "slow districts"! They have no man power and have a bunch of divas working in them.......
@@@@.
I agree. You go to a slow district and it's all dogs and guys who talk tough about putting in their time in Harrison and don't do anything anymore. The problem with that is the might have worked a ghetto district in the past but they never did a thing in that district. You get s good group of life long engleeood rangers or guys from Harrison together on a watch and you are gonna see good police work and a lot of good laughs. Meanwhile the lifelong dog who did nothing in 011 for his career except sleep and dodge jobs talks a big game and is "disgruntled" about this job and city. Pleeaseee, how can you be disgruntled at this job when you've never been rung through the ringer a few times.. I'm not talking just about CR numbers, I mean really worried about serious stiff. Most those former fast district disgruntled guys don't know a thing about that because they never did s thing.. they just drove around a fast district living off everyone else's work and experience.
Anonymous said...
capparrelli is in the fop for around 16years and what he can do with a knife is surgeon like. you'll never know it's in your back until it's 2 late. ONLY in it for himself.
BTW...how many of you know he was booted from being an "officer" 2 times because he wouldn't do any work.
12/04/2016 06:46:00 PM
That is one of the tiresome shit political families from the NW side. Worked for one of them at the airport, fucking back stabbing weasel. The look on his face when he got passed over for foreman was priceless. He left at 50 years old with 30 years on. Nice to be hooked up where you get the job before your 20th birthday.
All they have to do is up the requirements for FTO while up the incentives for them as well. Keep them in shitty districts they can train PPOs and help newer officers. Key idea is up the incentives. Pay, furlough pick, time off. Whatever it is but the FTO is most important but most neglected.
Wanna get rid of shitty merit sgts. Make FTO experience part of merit requirement. Important deterrent for sgt.
What next is Eddie going to prove his point, putting the coppers who most closely represent the people who live in the district by skin color together. Come on eddy make some changes you shuffling the gold star enabled club around keeping the same losers that cannot be leaders and not demoted them shows your in way over your head. What have you sir accomplished since you became head boss? Dare we say nothing? Murder up, shootings higher than than ever police moral completely in the toilet. Promotional tests let's say tainted, wonder will the new doj after going through city hall will they look into testing scam? Don't worry the Trump administration already knows you can't fool superman Trump or the "spirits of the air" SCC at all! The blood keeps flowing and the fish stinks from the head down until rahms the 50 and of course the gold star club stop the innocent from being blue canaries in Chirac nothing can change! #bluelivesalwaysmatter!
Does any rational blueshirt actually believe that city politicians and suck-a$$ bra$$ give a flying' fuck? Just more crocodile tears at police funerals.
Not a word about shift differential or hazardous duty pay.
Whether you're a protected house mouse on straight days with weekends off or working the dark mean streets of hellholes like 007 and 011, the pay is the same. It's the Chicago Way.
Fuck em. They been sending new guys to the ghetto since day one.
FOP needs to fight for 20 and out with maximum pension like NewYork.
Baptism by fire.
J.J.
How about the young dumb kids getting promoted ?!? Promote kids with no street experience and then put them in the ghetto and have them handle high crime areas that makes no sense. Same people have no experience managing people and now they're in charge
Just remember all those people promoted they know how to take a test
Ever wonder why traffic sucks? Why there are so many bike lanes that bicyclists don't use? New Yorkers wonder the same
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“The traffic is being engineered,” a former top NYPD official told The Post, explaining a long-term plan that began under Mayor Mike Bloomberg and hasn’t slowed with Mayor de Blasio.
“The city streets are being engineered to create traffic congestion, to slow traffic down, to favor bikers and pedestrians,” the former official said.
“There’s a reduction in capacity through the introduction of bike lanes and streets and lanes being closed down.”
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http://nypost.com/2016/12/02/new-york-citys-traffic-is-intentionally-horrible/
Duh! You don't need to talk to any engineer to figure out that Bew York like Chicago want people to give up driving in favor of cycling and public transportation. Well kiss my ass I'll sit in traffic and gun the engine. Carbon Monoxide for everyone
All they have to do is up the requirements for FTO while up the incentives for them as well. Keep them in shitty districts they can train PPOs and help newer officers.
They tired this and most FTO's gave up the position.
Like a spring lamb led to slaughter.......
Many contracts ago the FOP under Donahue said that the city made a deal that officers who put 5 year in in those same districts would be promoted with merit or allowed to go into clouted units.
And nothing! Nobody promoted nobody on the FLOP board causing a stir.(HELL most of the BOARD is in units)
So if it is really that important to the city lets negotiate. DEAN has a degree or two have him come up with something for the hard working patrol officers.
BONUS MONEY..higher wages for certain districts.
RAHM forget all that bullshit about senior officer wanting to work in specialized units.
1 more thing ANGELO don't negotiate for equipment ever again! It shows how little skill you have in dealing with the City.
12/04/2016 11:11:00 AM
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About all Angelo is going to negotiate is a position at a City College of Chicago department head.
He gone this election. Too many retirees on board, can't even have a quorum a few times in the future because of the numbers. A total FLOP.
His son Dean Jr. will be a detective in 2 classes making $175,000.00 w/ overtime
6 years later his son will be Sgt
3 years later his son will be LT
2 years later his son will be commander of Organized Crime.
The last words should sink in
That's how it workd
There is going to be a mass exodus on days in 025 once Lt KS starts working there. Between him and the current jagoff, 2nd watch is going to be unbearable.
12/04/2016 06:28:00 PM
What?
You blue shirts think you're too f'n
good to be "supervised" or somethin'?
12/04/2016 10:59:00 PM
Officers don't mind being supervised by a competent supervisor, even the guys that are really by the book. That is not the problem here.
re Update: Go Teachers. GO.
Experienced Teachers with High Seniority: please return to old classrooms @Tilden, Bogan, CVS, Kelvyn and the rest...You want that raise??then work for it. The Mayor would like you to do that cause its for the children. Thnx very much. Oh!! And by the way: You are the best and the brightest and greatest Teachers ever to be employed by Taxpayers in the entire world. Got it??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FOP needs to fight for 20 and out with maximum pension like NewYork.
12/05/2016 08:22:00 AM
No shit?! Hell yeah. News to me
to/ 12/4/16 6;28pm
quit acting like a cry baby LT KS is a decent boss maybe if you are unhappy maybe you can par form to 003, 004 or 006 and see what bad supervisors are like , I worked with KS years ago in 025 n now im in 016 and would love to have him come to 016
Anonymous said...
Retired officer Richard Farina passed away this past week, a true gentleman, real nice guy R.I.P. Going to heaven with St Michaels force.
12/04/2016 09:33:00 PM
Was he in the court section for awhile?
Extra pay for working in bad areas sounds like a good idea to me and I am very smart!
FOP needs to fight for 20 and out with maximum pension like NewYork.
New York has 20 and out with only 50 percent, but the plus with their pension is you can have 20 when you are 41 years old and you can go and begin collecting at 41.
That is a bad rumor, New York only gets 50 percent at 20 years.
21 years on
I will never step foot in the ghetto again!
Anonymous said...
Many contracts ago the FOP under Donahue said that the city made a deal that officers who put 5 year in in those same districts would be promoted with merit or allowed to go into clouted units.
And nothing! Nobody promoted nobody on the FLOP board causing a stir.(HELL most of the BOARD is in units)
So if it is really that important to the city lets negotiate. DEAN has a degree or two have him come up with something for the hard working patrol officers.
BONUS MONEY..higher wages for certain districts.
RAHM forget all that bullshit about senior officer wanting to work in specialized units.
1 more thing ANGELO don't negotiate for equipment ever again! It shows how little skill you have in dealing with the City.
12/04/2016 11:11:00 AM
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About all Angelo is going to negotiate is a position at a City College of Chicago department head.
He gone this election. Too many retirees on board, can't even have a quorum a few times in the future because of the numbers. A total FLOP.
His son Dean Jr. will be a detective in 2 classes making $175,000.00 w/ overtime
6 years later his son will be Sgt
3 years later his son will be LT
2 years later his son will be commander of Organized Crime.
The last words should sink in
That's how it workd
12/05/2016 10:43:00 AM
???????????????????
I think your post is complete election bullshit.
BUT if you have a crystal ball what are the lottery number this Saturday.
If you want to stay off the internet, then stay away from 2nd yr PO named PK in Lawndale or Englewood as he's always putting himself on camera and in photos to help get himself elected to something in the future. Go to PK's Facebook page and you him 24/7 on camera with fake poses. PK's on there with other POs when the cops won an when he played football with some of the neighborhood boys which go it put on TV and in the paper. PK's not on the job over 2 years and he's in law school already. He's a riser, watch out for him. PK said he seen battle in the Army, that's BS as he followed a priest around making routine visits and was in the reserves. PK hasn't seen a camera he doesn't like.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
21 years on
I will never step foot in the ghetto again!
12/05/2016 10:29:00 PM
"Why yaw actin' like yaw don't care about US?"
Duh! You don't need to talk to any engineer to figure out that Bew York like Chicago want people to give up driving in favor of cycling and public transportation. Well kiss my ass I'll sit in traffic and gun the engine. Carbon Monoxide for everyone
12/05/2016 09:29:00 AM
What it really does do well is prevent people from coming downtown to enjoy themselves and spend their money either in stores or restaurants. Businesses find they are loosing money and leave. Others just go bankrupt. Our tax base disappears and the city falls.
But hey, we can really feel good about ourselves riding those clean energy bikes in 20 below weather. Stupid, just stupid.
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